Green!  . . . by ALL MEANS 

John Brower

Do the Means Justify the End?

          Sweet Land of Liberty

TERRORISM AND WAR

from . . .   NOW!   Bill Moyers - PBS   We've been talking to people on this program who take different positions about the impending war with Iraq. Tonight's guest is opposed and argues his case in this new book, TERRORISM AND WAR The author is the historian and teacher Howard Zinn, who has lived a politically engaged life since he came home from the Air Force after World War II. He grew up on the tough streets of Brooklyn where he worked as a teenager in the shipyards, earned his doctorate in history from Columbia university, and while teaching college became an activist in the civil rights movement and the opposition to the Vietnam War.

Also by Howard Zinn: A PEOPLE'S HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES - written from the point of view of men and women left out of the official records of the American epic. Since its publication in 1980 it's become a touchstone of dissident thought in America. Howard Zinn was in town the other day, and I talked to him about the United States, terrorism, and Iraq. . . .

By now we have reached a point in human history when the means of war have become so horrible that they exceed any possible good that come out of using those means. Since World War II, war has taken its toll increasingly against civilians. In World War I, there was a ten-to-one ratio of military personnel killed versus civilians, whereas in World War II that ratio got closer to one-to-one. And after World War II, most of the people who have gotten killed in wars were civilians. Howard Zinn Howard Zinn speaks in Madison, Wisconsin. October 10, 2002:    [Quicktime movie from The Progressive]   See Also: Conservation and National Security Midnight Insights - The Lessons of War Healing Time on Earth all by  David R. Brower

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